Only an idiot would say their equal. and GOKu knew that he and vegeta would be killed if they fought super buu. I didn't find it possible that they got that close to them. And the only thing he said is the "EFFECT (EFFECT meaning Efficiency) of the Potara is better the the Fusion." If Vegito existed and Gogeta caught up. Add them and multiply by 2, since there is a definate strength increase with fusion and I use 2 since it is 2 people. Since Fusion Reborn happens before Vegito is created, we should also probably assume that Goku and Vegeta aren't as powerful when they fuse to Gogeta as they are when they fuse to Vegito. (Gogeta did not say that Janemba was stronger than Super Buu, Gogeta only had one line in the movie. Ss3Vegeto 19:50, October 15, 2012 (UTC). Just throwing that out there. You have no evidence or statement to support your claims. Vegito will win. if speaking buu had no regeneration power, he would not have lasted the base form vegito final kamehameha that blew half of him apart. hide. That means the base fusion is stronger than the max power levels of each person. He was already in movie 12, fans would love him to come back (I know I would). About the power ups, let's leave the non-cannon stuff like vegito SSJ4 gogeta SSJ3 etc, let's talk about cannon stuff, gogeta could fuse at SSJ4 because both goku and vegeta were SSJ4 at the time, however that fusion actually caused a lot of strain in gogeta limiting him to less than 10 minutes, at that point the pothala has the advantage, because no matter the transformation, there's no such strain limit. b. gotenks (post) was even with super buu as an ssj3. One would assume that Vegito, still being half alive (and a completely new, permanent person) would be able to stay on Earth. the energy they drain would probly tired them both out before the thirty minutes. Thus, it is a true article, with fiction in the fiction, which was allowed by the meaning of this article which is fictional. He curbstomps Gogeta. Gogeta ssj4 is stronger than vegito but the fact that the potara is permanent allows vegito to train and he can be stronger than gogeta in a short period of time while gogeta is strong for only 15 min because of the dance fusion. Same with Fusion Reborn, that movie mirrors a fusion between the two most powerful saiyans at the time, and it shows a very powerful character as a result of that fusion. They could both possibly taste awsome. By the end of the 30min, both fighters would be just as damaged and just as tired. And for that matter, when Gogeta utterly obliterated Janemba within a single minute, how much of his full power was HE using? Gogeta even said that Jannemba was stronger than super Buu. 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So that means my earlier 'But WAIT!' Okay guys some of you made a really good points,Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta,let me explain to you,in fusion reborn movie,when Janemba came ,there was made a gap betwen the earth and the other world,so vegeta made it trough,if you dont remmember watch the movie,goku was still dead in fusion reborn,so on that point,it was before majin buu,and we consider that majin buu was the strongest vilian in dbz,and vegetto played with him,he didnt even had to turn supersayan,that was only showing off,and i dont remmember gogeta had such an easy time with janemba,so that proves it ,vegetto is stronger than gogeta,and of story, 93.87.124.238 20:12, March 25, 2013 (UTC), Remember Super Buu with all those absorbed is still weaker than Kid Buu, because Kid Buu is purest form and even Kibito Kai says he is stronger (not raw power wise) because when he absorbs others there good auras effect his mentality. He chose to power up to demoralize Buu. He was doing well until janemba transformed. Fucking. A lot of people would assume that to mean "Who would win in a fight." But in order to balance it, because we need to balance the amount of fiction on each side, Vegeta could catch up to Goku. Any way you look at it theres no real indication on who would win. That gives you a base Vegito of 10,000. From there, we can infer that after fusing, ss1 gogeta would be base goku x 800 x 50 = 40000 (x10 ss3 modif form base) in other words, ss1 gogeta is ss3 goku x10. Also, I say that it adds their max power levels of the individuals to create a bae  since base Gotenks was stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten. It's simply useless to try and establish how powerful these two are simply by comparing their opponents. so in a fight considering the both of them where time limit isn't a factor. A lot of people also forget that chronologically speaking, Gogeta happens after Buu, therefore Old fart...i mean Kai was talking about the fusion of Gotenks. We don't know how strong fusion makes the person it creates, so we create a reasonable formula. ^ Wrong, if you understood the cannon of DBZ you would know that vegito is the result of the potara technique, the Potora Technique is stronger than the Fusion Dance technique. Therefore the fight will last until Gogeta defuses, which will not make Vegito the winner since no one actually loses, so.. draw! [32]PrinceVegeta66[33]19:03, July 28, 2012 (UTC), ^They're still debating this because there's no concrete evidence that Vegetto>Gogeta. While he screwed things up when taking on Omega Shenron, he was able to kill Janemba with the power of his Soul Breaker technique. Potara is quicker to do since they only have to put earrings on, no dance required, that's why potara's better because in the heat of a battle an opponent wont give them time to perform the fusion dance whereas potara u just slipp om the earrings. [26]S'h'a'k'u'r'a'n'1'3[27]T'h'i's[28]e'n'd's[29]N'O'W'! Funimation will be bringing the film to theaters in the United States on January 16. After that you can see him quickly try to destroy Omega, but his fusion runs out. Vegito kind've proves that lol. Super Sayian 4 is powerful enough to break the effects of the wish to make goku a child. If any of the movies are canon, it would have to be wrath of the dragon, but even thats got plot holes that make it noncanon. Idiots should actually learn to read the manga or even the japanese sub. 'Nuff said. We're using fiction right now because we actually made fiction inside fiction because of Elder Kai giving Goku and Vegeta his earrings so the battle can happen. The only reason the fusees have to match their power is to achieve harmony between the two people. and was at least as powerful in base as he was as an ssj prerosat. Gingka: Fusions are insanely strong! is they both didnt die from sheer energy shock, then i would have to say vegito would win due to having 30 minutes to run until there fusion burned off. So in their max forms presented (SSJ Vegito Z and SSJ4 Gogeta GT) it is not even a contest. So, for a true test, you would have to get both individuals at the end of GT and to make it fair, only allow them to fight for the 30 minutes. And it's much more effective than that fusion dance you must have picked up from the Metamorans" (Anime; Dragon Ball Z, Episode 267: Ready to Fuse?). Now let's assume we're testing this in GT (although why Vegeta would allow the permanent fusion to happen again is beyond me): 1. no they werent and no it isnt. Check the published material. Also, don’t compare gogeta in the movie and vegito in the series. Super Saiyan Gogeta is much more serious than Super Saiyan Vegito. Holy kami!!!!!!! Gogeta's power can be determined like this. That would put their base form of Gogeta as 4000, and actually on par with Goku as a SSJ3. Well because of the power balences that the fuse dance needs all that matters is someone has to lower tVortexx124 (talk) 02:54, June 12, 2013 (UTC) of power not a fight) i believe Vegito would win. Maybe Gogeta does get it, but to me, it doesn't really look like it. Each one exponentially increasing his power. And he wouldn't time out in 30-10 minutes like Gogeta.we r talking about dbz not gt, Dont think their power levels are supposed to be different. plus it keeps the fight even at ss1. Same with vegetto. 4) Yet no such thing happened in the actual anime or manga when Gotenks was fighting Super Buu and getting beaten. Says who? Well they did say that SSJ4 Gogeta is several times stronger than SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta but if Vegito can go SSJ4 then Vegito would be stronger without a doubt. Some say Goku was dominant in Gogeta. ~~Gogeta4ever~~, you guys are all forgetting something... in dbz buu saga vegito is facing a buu with a super saiyan 3 gotenks and ultimate gohan(which is stronger then super saiyan 3) absorbed. I believe so. Since the fusees had gotten stronger since Z, it can be assumed that Vegito's base form has also received a power boost. [1] [14]'''TheDragonThatHasLongSinceForgottenHisName [15] 21:10, October 20, 2011 (UTC), This theory makes a lot of false assumptions. Vegito would just keep spuring on Gogeta and toying with him and so his arrogance would be his undoing. I believe that when you use the potara earrings, the primary "driver" of the fusion is the one with a higher power level. COULDNT DEAL DAMAGE. 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